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Then he shook hand with him, made him sit in his place, and said nothing until he went away. The
Imam was very pleased with this wonderful debate.[1]
2. With Yehya Bin Khalid al‐Bermeki
Yehya b. Khalid questioned Hisham in the presence of Harun al‐Rashid, saying to him:
‐O Hisham, tell me of the truth: Could it be in two different directions? ‐No. ‐Tell me about two
persons who dispute with each other and differ over the precept of the religion: Are they right or
wrong? Is one of them right and the other wrong? ‐They are not void of that; it is not permissible
that they both are right. ‐Tell me about (Imam) ‘Ali and al‐‘Abbas when they sued one another
about the inheritance before Abu Bakr: Who was the right and who was the wrong?
Hisham became perplexed; he narrated his perplexity, saying: “If I had said that ‘Ali was wrong,
then I would have been unbeliever and withdrawn from me creed. If I had said that al‐‘Abbas was
wrong, al‐Rashid would have cut off my head.” It was really a problem. Shortly after that he
remembered the saying of Imam al‐Sadiq, peace be on him: “O Hisham, you are still supported by
the Holy Spirit as long as you support us with your tongue.” So he came to know that he would
not be deserted. He found an answer and said to him: “No mistake issued from them; they both
were right. There is (an example) similar to this in the Qur’an. Allah, may His name be great, says
in the story of Dawud: And has there come to you the story of the litigants, when they made an
entry into the private chamber by ascending over the walls...two litigants, of whom one has acted
wrongfully towards the other. Which of the two angels was wrong? And which of them was right?
If you said that they both were wrong, then your answer would be similar to my answer itself.”
[1] Al‐Keshi, Rijal, pp. 176‐177. Al‐Amali, vol. 1, p. 55. Al‐Mas'udi, Murujj al‐Dhahab, vol. 2, p. 382.
Yehya replied: “I do not say that the two angels were wrong; rather I say that they both were
right. That is because they really did not sued one another, nor did they differ over the judgment.
They showed that to draw Dawud’s attention to his mistake, to make him know the judgment,
and to inform him of it.”
As a result Hisham said: “So were ‘Ali and al‐‘Abbas; they did not differ over the judgment, nor did
they really sue one another. They showed the difference and the dispute, that they might draw
Abu Bakr’s attention to his error and inform him of his mistake and show him the way to his
wronging them in respect with the inheritance. They had no doubt about their affair. They did just
as the two angels did.” Accordingly, Yehya was perplexed and was unable to give an answer. As
for al‐Rashid, he approved this wonderful explanation Hisham concluded.[1]
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