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When were you locked up and what was the process like?<br />

On January 4, 1952. Before Christmas they were interrogating me all night in Bartolomějská<br />

Street 4 . In the morning they released me and I didn’t wait for anything. I hopped on my motorbike<br />

and went straight to Heřmanův Městec to destroy the radio. If that didn’t go well then<br />

there would be a bad ending for the whole family because it was in the family’s house. So I destroyed<br />

it successfully and on January 4 I was definitively locked up. It happened in the evening<br />

on Charles Square when I was coming home from school. They took me back to Bartolomějská.<br />

They left me there for four days. I was in such a state that it would be hardly possible to<br />

transport me somewhere. Then they took me to Pardubice. The whole group was investigated<br />

in Pardubice in the state police department. In Bartolomějská I had a hearing and of course<br />

I denied almost everything. I only admitted that I knew the people from the group and they<br />

offered me cooperation. That was unacceptable for me, but I made an agreement with them<br />

that I would think about it. During the second interrogation there was nothing to think about<br />

and I had to say it and sign a piece of paper with a statement that I was not going to cooperate<br />

with the state police. This way, things started moving in a certain direction. At first they were<br />

trying to convince me to work for them because they needed some people, especially people<br />

who knew foreign languages. At that time I was already able to speak English and German<br />

very well. So for this reason I was a really attractive person for them. Yet, we didn’t make any<br />

agreements (laughs) and then a big storm started (fight) and of course I answered on the first<br />

punch. I knew Jujitsu and I was even boxing for a while, but that didn’t help in the end. At first<br />

it was three on one and I don’t even know how many of them got together on me there after<br />

that. They really finished me in a bad way, it cost me three teeth and one ear. Today I hardly<br />

hear out of my left ear.<br />

Where in Bartolemějská was this happening?<br />

In some police room and I don’t know where because they were always blindfolding me.<br />

When you don’t know the building it’s hard to get any chance of orientation. We went up the<br />

steps, down the steps, and then they turned me around three times, and took me somewhere<br />

again. What sense did this have, I don’t know? Maybe they were trying to depress me. They<br />

could have had my trial anywhere, it wouldn’t have mattered. I knew I was there and that they<br />

were interrogating me, but why were they making such theatrics, I don’t know. Because this<br />

wasn’t clear to me, it didn’t depress me at all.<br />

Did someone give you first aid?<br />

No, no one through the whole investigation process gave me first aid. I don’t think they even<br />

had a doctor there.<br />

Were you alone in Bartolomějská or were you with someone?<br />

For the first two days I was alone and before they took me to Pardubice they took me to an<br />

escort room where there were three or four of us. I hardly saw the people because they threw<br />

me into the room in the evening and took me out in the morning. I don’t remember anything.<br />

How did that beating affect you? How did you explain it to yourself?<br />

One had some information about the methods of investigation that the SS had. We knew<br />

that and these methods would not be better or worse. I personally wasn’t really surprised<br />

about all of it.<br />

4 Bartolomějská – a prison in Prague.<br />

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