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What are your memories and what comes to mind when I mention “domeček“ 4 at Hradčany? The time I lived there was from April 15th to the beginning of May. When they finished the investigation and I was transported to holding at Pankrác, that was the worst time in my life. I was a young kid, having fun with all those things, thinking nothing bad could have happened to me. Maybe we would get a punishment for the disturbance we caused in the pub, but everything that happened then, all that investigating of the whole case, and everything that was rolled onto us, was really cruel. The worst times were of course those, when we were in the hands of Pergl 5 , the boss of the “domeček.“ The most terrible thing was when they took us to the general staff at Dejvice. Whether it was in the morning, noon, evening, or at night, everything depended on how much the investigators were in a mood to talk to us. The worst was his abuse and treatment in the “domeček.“ The cruelest was a dungeon cell under the staircase where, once he got the command, put me and the other boys (though I spent the most time there). It was dark and there was no daylight, no bulb. It was a hard-packed cell, wet and closed. There a man was like a mouse in a hole adrift until they brought coffee or a piece of bread, if they gave us something. Those were horrible things. From the moment we went into the “domeček“ he used violence, a truncheon, and he had cat o’nine tails with little bullets. He was hitting a person with that from the front, from the back, many times I fell down and he behaved like a beast that was being satisfied with that cruelty on us. Of course, his expressions and everything made you worried about your own life. Many times he led me to the inquisition pointing a gun at me. I didn’t know whether it was full and whether it was on safety, but he said, “Make another step and I will shoot you like a dog, you seditious bastard” or “Will you speak or not?” The worst was when the investigators didn’t get out of me what they wanted. When I couldn’t confess what they were suspecting of me, then the nights and days were bad. The truth is that they had to give us some laxative in the coffee, because we were starving. I remember Tonda Španinger saying once, “If I could catch a bird sitting on the ledge, I would eat it.” It was that brutal over there. So in that “domeček” there were six of us, six soldiers. The guards weren’t men, they were beasts, who were our age, maybe a little older. They kept walking in corridors, kicking the doors and we had to either do push-ups or knee-bends or run away… briefly, they always wanted to crush us so the investigators would get us in such a state, to be able to do anything with us. I remember getting to Pergl’s office and I saw various instruments hanging on the walls… Once they gave me a metal belt around my head and kept pulling it tighter and tighter, so I thought it would squash my head. They tied your arms together so you couldn’t defend or fight back and they did what ever they needed. I really lost thirty kilos (66 pounds) while I was there. I came in with a weight of eighty kilograms (176 pounds) and when I was left I was nearly fifty kilos (110 pounds)… they still wanted to prove me guilty, that I was the head ini- 4 “Domeček” (in Czech “little house,” read [domacheck]) – The place in Kapucínská street in Prague – Hradčany, called “domeček,” became the specific prison for soldiers. It was an institution of the 5th department of the Headquarters or known also as OBZ. There they mainly kept soldiers, who were forced to testify in certain ways via cruel interrogation methods.” (source: BÍLEK, J., Nástin vývoje vojenského vězeňství v letech 1945–1953, s. 127. 5 The staff captain František Pergl alias “Dry linden” or “Black penicillin” was “only” a caretaker of the “domeček,” that means a custodian of the 5th department of Headquarters in Kapucínská street. Pergl was known for his brutality already because of his service in the prewar Czechoslovakian army. He met every command given to him by investigators to persecute prisoners and he himself made up various styles of torture. Czechoslovak Political Prisoners 99
tiator and traitor, and that it was me who persuaded others to stay abroad. I always wanted a confrontation. When the investigator declared that Josef Jirka 6 said this and that, showing me his papers, I said, “No, I want you to put us face to face.” Even once when we were going by a car with Jirka together to another interrogation I said to him, “What the hell were you saying in there, it isn’t the truth at all.” He was absolutely down in a low psychotic state, they could and did anything they wanted. We would have signed anything. So they took us to the office to be confronted. When I said I didn’t tell him anything in the car, he started crying and totally broke down. I knew it and I believe and not only us, but also big soldiers of the foreign army and generals, Pergl really scourged us. He wasn’t a human being, he was a hyena, reigning there, and he did exactly what they wanted him to do. He was getting people ready for the interrogation process. When all that was over, I was really happy I got to Pankrác and I was waiting to go through the interrogation there. How long did the “domeček” situation last? It was from March 15th. They took me into custody on the 13th then they took me to the fifth department by the Saint Nicholas church two days later, the one at Malá Strana. Then Lietenant Hůlka came to pick me up, he was in the army gym club in Chuchle, he was also a member of OBZ 7 . Also this, “Dry Linden,“ Pergl was there. From Saint Nicholas they took me to the “domeček.“ So I was there from March 15th. When I was traveling back then, a flower called golden rain was in bloom. I remember it was May Day, because I heard the big celebrations on the Ring Square. I was there until the beginning of May, when they took me over. So it lasted seven, maybe eight weeks. The six friends, can you name them? Who was at that “domeček“? Of course I can, it was me, Kobranov, Štock, Hainý, Španninger, and Jirka, all six of us who were on the national team and who was nominated for the world championships in London. In fact, we all were soldiers. Some in the basic service, some who for two years had already played hockey for the army sport club. We represented the army and we had the basement in Chuchle Station. We lived in a villa and commuted to the stadium at Štvanice to train and play. So there were these six soldiers, but some of us left at different times from there. Not all went as late as I did. I think that I was one of the last ones who was moved to Pankrác 8 . Nevertheless you were one of the youngest ones. Unfortunately and of course I was really a naive young boy. I can see today. I didn’t have a clue what was spreading around and what Communism was. How old were you at that time? In March of 1950 I was twenty-one and a half. I wasn’t even supposed to start my military service yet. I went as a basic soldier because my best friend Vofka Kobranov went as well and we played two years before that on the national team. So he talked me into it. I went into the military service a year earlier than I had to. I wanted to be in the military service so that we both could play for the army sport club. 6 Josef Jirka – team-mate 7 OBZ – the press agency for the Czechoslovakian army. 8 Pankrác – prison in Prague 100
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What are your memories and what comes to mind when I mention “domeček“ 4 at Hradčany?<br />
The time I lived there was from April 15th to the beginning of May. When they finished the<br />
investigation and I was transported to holding at Pankrác, that was the worst time in my life.<br />
I was a young kid, having fun with all those things, thinking nothing bad could have happened<br />
to me. Maybe we would get a punishment for the disturbance we caused in the pub, but<br />
everything that happened then, all that investigating of the whole case, and everything that<br />
was rolled onto us, was really cruel. The worst times were of course those, when we were in<br />
the hands of Pergl 5 , the boss of the “domeček.“ The most terrible thing was when they took<br />
us to the general staff at Dejvice. Whether it was in the morning, noon, evening, or at night,<br />
everything depended on how much the investigators were in a mood to talk to us. The worst<br />
was his abuse and treatment in the “domeček.“ The cruelest was a dungeon cell under the<br />
staircase where, once he got the command, put me and the other boys (though I spent the<br />
most time there). It was dark and there was no daylight, no bulb. It was a hard-packed cell, wet<br />
and closed. There a man was like a mouse in a hole adrift until they brought coffee or a piece<br />
of bread, if they gave us something.<br />
Those were horrible things. From the moment we went into the “domeček“ he used violence,<br />
a truncheon, and he had cat o’nine tails with little bullets. He was hitting a person with<br />
that from the front, from the back, many times I fell down and he behaved like a beast that<br />
was being satisfied with that cruelty on us. Of course, his expressions and everything made you<br />
worried about your own life. Many times he led me to the inquisition pointing a gun at me.<br />
I didn’t know whether it was full and whether it was on safety, but he said, “Make another<br />
step and I will shoot you like a dog, you seditious bastard” or “Will you speak or not?” The<br />
worst was when the investigators didn’t get out of me what they wanted. When I couldn’t<br />
confess what they were suspecting of me, then the nights and days were bad. The truth is<br />
that they had to give us some laxative in the coffee, because we were starving. I remember<br />
Tonda Španinger saying once, “If I could catch a bird sitting on the ledge, I would eat it.” It<br />
was that brutal over there. So in that “domeček” there were six of us, six soldiers. The guards<br />
weren’t men, they were beasts, who were our age, maybe a little older. They kept walking in<br />
corridors, kicking the doors and we had to either do push-ups or knee-bends or run away…<br />
briefly, they always wanted to crush us so the investigators would get us in such a state, to be<br />
able to do anything with us. I remember getting to Pergl’s office and I saw various instruments<br />
hanging on the walls…<br />
Once they gave me a metal belt around my head and kept pulling it tighter and tighter, so<br />
I thought it would squash my head. They tied your arms together so you couldn’t defend or<br />
fight back and they did what ever they needed. I really lost thirty kilos (66 pounds) while I was<br />
there. I came in with a weight of eighty kilograms (176 pounds) and when I was left I was<br />
nearly fifty kilos (110 pounds)… they still wanted to prove me guilty, that I was the head ini-<br />
4 “Domeček” (in Czech “little house,” read [domacheck]) – The place in Kapucínská street in Prague – Hradčany, called<br />
“domeček,” became the specific prison for soldiers. It was an institution of the 5th department of the Headquarters or<br />
known also as OBZ. There they mainly kept soldiers, who were forced to testify in certain ways via cruel interrogation<br />
methods.” (source: BÍLEK, J., Nástin vývoje vojenského vězeňství v letech 1945–1953, s. 127.<br />
5 The staff captain František Pergl alias “Dry linden” or “Black penicillin” was “only” a caretaker of the “domeček,” that<br />
means a custodian of the 5th department of Headquarters in Kapucínská street. Pergl was known for his brutality already<br />
because of his service in the prewar <strong>Czechoslovak</strong>ian army. He met every command given to him by investigators to persecute<br />
prisoners and he himself made up various styles of torture.<br />
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