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shorter visits of three to four weeks under the International Visitor Program. I am a great<br />

believer in exchange programs. Many of our participants had never been to the West, <strong>and</strong><br />

had never imagined they would visit the United States. For so many of the Moldovans<br />

who participated, it seemed to be a life-changing event. I had one idea to send a group of<br />

local museum directors to the United States to see how museums are run. They came<br />

back astounded. It was very gratifying to be able to do this <strong>for</strong> people.<br />

Q: But you send Moldovans to the United States, the world opens up, <strong>and</strong> it is hard to go<br />

home. How did you h<strong>and</strong>le that?<br />

PERINA: True, this is often a problem, particularly with students <strong>and</strong> younger people.<br />

They see the limited opportunities <strong>for</strong> themselves in Moldova, <strong>and</strong> it is difficult to go<br />

back. But it was less of a problem <strong>for</strong> the older, professional people we sent. They had<br />

families in Moldova, established homes, <strong>and</strong> usually a much weaker comm<strong>and</strong> of English<br />

than the young people. For the most part, they did not want to start over in another<br />

country. Most of the Moldovans trying to go abroad were either young students or<br />

unskilled workers who went to Russia <strong>and</strong> Western Europe to earn money that they could<br />

send home. This was a serious problem. Some rural villages were almost empty of<br />

working-age men. Children were growing up without their fathers in the household. On<br />

the other h<strong>and</strong>, it did bring money <strong>and</strong> hard currency into the country <strong>and</strong> helped a lot of<br />

families survive difficult times.<br />

The economy was in bad straits, <strong>and</strong> still is. The per capita income in my time was<br />

between $50 <strong>and</strong> $100 per month. It was very hard to measure <strong>and</strong> in fact may have been<br />

higher because there was such an enormous black or underground economy by people<br />

who did not declare their income in order to avoid taxes. This then meant the government<br />

did not have money <strong>for</strong> pensions, schools <strong>and</strong> social programs. Pensioners were<br />

particularly hard hit. You know, Moldova was the republic with the most moderate<br />

climate in the Soviet Union. As a result of this, many pensioners went there to retire,<br />

especially military pensioners who had weak ties to any other place. In this respect, it was<br />

a bit like the Florida of the Soviet Union. Well, when the Soviet Union fell apart,<br />

suddenly the new Moldovan government had responsibility <strong>for</strong> all of these pensioners<br />

who had previously gotten their pensions from Moscow. Imagine if Florida suddenly<br />

became responsible <strong>for</strong> all the social security payments there. It was one of the many<br />

problems Moldova faced <strong>and</strong> one of the many complications from the dissolution of the<br />

Soviet Union.<br />

Q: How was the Embassy involved in dealing with the Transnistrian issue? Was<br />

Transnistria just a separate world or what?<br />

PERINA: We did quite a bit. I did not participate in the mediation negotiations since the<br />

U.S. was not one of the three mediators. That was done by the American who headed the<br />

OSCE Mission. But we in the Embassy were active in other ways. I had a lot of<br />

discussions with the two presidents, Lucinschi <strong>and</strong> Voronin, on policy toward<br />

Transnistria. I also tried to be more active within Transnistria. In particular, I initiated a<br />

dialogue with the Transnistrian so-called President, Igor Smirnov. We had not engaged<br />

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