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Montenegro <strong>and</strong> elevating their Chargés to Ambassadors. By the time I left Belgrade, I<br />

was one of the few remaining Chargé d’Affaires. This European rush to normalize<br />

relations with Serbia <strong>and</strong> overlook the Kosovo issue was of course the biggest dread of<br />

the Kosovar Albanians. I think it was partly because of this development that the<br />

Albanians gave up hope that the international community would help them <strong>and</strong> moved<br />

toward developing the Kosovo Liberation Army, which suddenly appeared on the scene<br />

about two years later. This was when I was serving as the Deputy Assistant Secretary in<br />

the Department, <strong>and</strong> it took the entire international community by surprise. Suddenly, the<br />

Kosovar Albanians had an army which they had largely secretly put together. It was an<br />

amazing feat but also reflected how bad our intelligence was on Kosovo because we were<br />

still focusing almost exclusively on Bosnia. But I think I am getting too far ahead. I am<br />

sure we will come back to Kosovo later.<br />

Q: OK, so let’s go back to Bosnia pre-Dayton. What was the process of getting to<br />

Dayton? How did the talks evolve?<br />

PERINA: Well, we have to go back to the visits by Bob Frasure, the Deputy Assistant<br />

Secretary who was h<strong>and</strong>ling Yugoslavia <strong>and</strong> whom I already mentioned. Bob started<br />

coming out when it became clear that the policy of just delivering threatening demarches<br />

to Milosevic was not working, <strong>and</strong> when Holbrooke became Assistant Secretary <strong>for</strong><br />

European Affairs <strong>and</strong> wanted to get more involved in resolving the conflict. Frasure came<br />

out as sort of an advance party to meet with Milosevic <strong>and</strong> explore if there was any<br />

common ground <strong>for</strong> negotiations that Holbrooke would then take over. He made several<br />

visits, <strong>and</strong> in the end we drew up a broad list of principles by which we thought the<br />

conflict could be resolved. The bottom line of these principles was that Bosnia had to<br />

remain as a single federalist state, albeit Republika Srpska, a Serb entity with<br />

considerable autonomy, could continue to exist within Bosnia. Milosevic agreed to this,<br />

<strong>and</strong> it was the cue <strong>for</strong> Holbrooke to come in. Milosevic knew this. We had told him that if<br />

talks at the Frasure level succeeded, then a higher level representative—understood to be<br />

Holbrooke—would come to Belgrade. It was an incentive <strong>for</strong> Milosevic because he<br />

wanted to get the U.S. involved, <strong>and</strong> he wanted to deal with the highest-level American<br />

possible.<br />

He was also at this time trying to clean up his image in other ways. For example, we had<br />

a long-st<strong>and</strong>ing child custody dispute with Belgrade. An American mother was trying to<br />

get her children back from a Serbian father who had absconded with them to Serbia after<br />

he lost custody in U.S. divorce proceedings. For about five years the mother with the<br />

Embassy’s help had been trying to get the children back, with the Serbs always claiming<br />

that they did not know their whereabouts. One day shortly be<strong>for</strong>e Dayton, out of the blue,<br />

Milosevic called me to say that the children had been found <strong>and</strong> could be returned to the<br />

mother. We immediately picked them up <strong>and</strong> kept them in the Embassy until the mother<br />

arrived, about 24 hours later, <strong>for</strong> a very dramatic <strong>and</strong> emotional reunion, since they<br />

hardly had memory of her. I have no doubt that the Serbs had known <strong>for</strong> a long time<br />

where the children were but Milosevic finally made the decision to return them when he<br />

felt it would most bolster his image with the Americans.<br />

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