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<strong>and</strong> clever. They are survivors, like everyone else in the Balkans. In most cases, they<br />

found ways to beat the system, though it was hard.<br />

The Embassy people were, of course, in a very privileged position. We had the hard<br />

currency, we had the ability to bring in gasoline, food <strong>and</strong> other commodities <strong>for</strong><br />

Embassy use, so we did not really suffer. But some things were difficult. For example,<br />

we could not use the banking system <strong>for</strong> Embassy transactions because Serb banks were<br />

also under sanctions <strong>and</strong> thus had no links to <strong>for</strong>eign banks. Everything was on a cash<br />

basis. Even salaries of our local employees were paid in cash. About every two weeks,<br />

we sent a car to Budapest that would bring back tens of thous<strong>and</strong>s of dollars in cash,<br />

sometimes over a hundred thous<strong>and</strong> dollars. The cars were driven by Serb employees of<br />

the Embassy <strong>and</strong> had an American on board but no guards. They thus aroused no<br />

suspicion or interest. The whole system was based on secrecy. Otherwise, of course, local<br />

criminal warlords like the infamous Arkan would quickly have targeted these cars, <strong>and</strong><br />

probably no number of guards could have protected them. At one point we had to put a<br />

new roof on the Embassy residence because it was leaking. This was a major repair <strong>and</strong><br />

cost over a hundred thous<strong>and</strong> dollars. A car came from Budapest with the cash in a<br />

suitcase, <strong>and</strong> we paid <strong>for</strong> it that way. I remember telling Dick Holbrooke this story when I<br />

first met him in Budapest after he was nominated to be Assistant Secretary. He thought it<br />

was fascinating <strong>and</strong> already then took a special interest in the Yugoslav conflict. I spent<br />

an hour telling him stories from Belgrade, <strong>and</strong> that was how we first got to know one<br />

another. I just happened to be passing through Budapest when he was there with his wife,<br />

<strong>and</strong> I asked to meet with him.<br />

Q: The Embassy was still in the same old compound?<br />

PERINA: It was that same building, covering an entire block. We still used the main<br />

chancery but there were a lot of empty apartments in the other wings because the staff<br />

had been so downsized. The commissary was still active as well as the large cafeteria. In<br />

my first year, I was there without my wife so that my younger daughter, Alex<strong>and</strong>ra, could<br />

finish high school in Virginia. I lived in the DCM residence because the main residence<br />

was under repair. That was the most difficult <strong>and</strong> bleakest year. In the second year, my<br />

wife joined me, <strong>and</strong> we moved to the main Embassy residence, which as you know is a<br />

beautiful building with a huge pool, tennis courts, a wonderful property. It was without a<br />

doubt the nicest residence we lived in through my entire career.<br />

Q: What sort of a staff did you have? Did you have the equivalent of a DCM (Deputy<br />

Chief of Mission)?<br />

PERINA: By <strong>and</strong> large, there was an excellent staff of very committed people. My first<br />

year I did not have a <strong>for</strong>mal DCM because I was in the DCM position but I asked Jim<br />

Swigert, the head of the economic <strong>and</strong> political Section, to serve as the acting DCM. He<br />

was outst<strong>and</strong>ing <strong>and</strong> helped me immensely because he had been there the previous year<br />

<strong>and</strong> provided continuity. When I moved into the chief of mission position as a permanent<br />

Chargé d’Affaires, I did recruit a DCM who was Larry Butler.<br />

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