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NUMBER 89 343<br />

had the big primaries, secondaries, modem wing feathers, and<br />

the automatic streamlining mechanism. Modem birds lose traction<br />

on the ground, but in air they build up the speed of the upstroke<br />

to get to the next power stroke—a dozen times a second.<br />

When this transition occurred in birds, I do not know. But Archaeopteryx<br />

had most of the required arm structures necessary<br />

for flight. It has been asked, 'Is gliding required or is it more<br />

primitive than powered flight?' This group keeps referring to<br />

flight by having the animal get up into the trees and gliding<br />

down. Why is the elevation in a tree required when the additional<br />

lifting power is available by increasing the rate of the<br />

wingbeat cycle? Why are those wrists built that way, to climb<br />

trees?"<br />

Martin asked, "John, do you think flight got started essentially<br />

straight up from a standing start?" Ostrom responded,<br />

"No, it has some forward velocity motion by the hindlegs; Archaeopteryx<br />

is built as a cursorial biped." For clarification,<br />

Martin asked, "Do you think the motion of supination enabled<br />

the animal to get started right off or are you saying it gained<br />

forward velocity from mnning? My question is, is the supination<br />

motion you are describing adequate in and of itself, or<br />

does the animal need velocity from some other means? Are<br />

we talking once again about cursorial flight?" Ostrom responded,<br />

"Most birds can mn and take off too. Many birds<br />

walk or run into their flight. They do not all begin from a<br />

standing start. I am just saying that the modified carpus was<br />

doing something. What?"<br />

In response to this question, Olson asked another: " What<br />

was it doing in those dinosaurs? They were not flying." To<br />

which Ostrom responded, " I do not know. The theropod/bird<br />

plan—they all have that carpal plan. Why?"<br />

Gerald Mayr asked, "What was the selective advantage of<br />

the ability to supinate to an intermediate stage, i.e., to a creature<br />

with small feathers that was mnning?"<br />

"Birds are bipeds and have long forelimbs," offered Paul,<br />

"and early forms have raptorial hands like Archaeopteryx.<br />

Among archosaurs, the only other forms like that are theropod<br />

dinosaurs [Paul, 1988]. The arms of some giant theropods, such<br />

as Deinocheirus, were about 10 feet long. As far as the lunate<br />

carpal block, every single dinosaur that is a theropod has this<br />

lunate and some other avian features in other parts of the skeleton<br />

and skull that are not present in Archaeopteryx. This suggests<br />

or implies, but I cannot prove it, that the reason they do<br />

have the system is that they are secondarily flightless. A new<br />

troodontid from China, Sinomithoides, a photo of which I reproduce<br />

on my handout, can fold the manus over the radius and<br />

ulna well over 90°; it possesses a very good folding mechanism.<br />

Sinomithoides was described by Russell and Dong in<br />

1993."<br />

Paul Sereno quickly responded, "I disagree with that interpretation.<br />

There are different interpretations of the carpi positions<br />

on that specimen; one is slightly higher than 90°, the other<br />

is about 90° The specimen is coming at you a little and the<br />

photo is deceiving. I have looked at that specimen, and I found<br />

evidence it could not retract the manus any more than Archaeopteryx"<br />

Martin noted, "I was recently asked a question about the long<br />

forelimbs of dromeosaurs, so I measured the limbs of a few.<br />

When I took off the manus and compared the length of the arm<br />

to the hindlimb without the foot, I found that the forelimb<br />

bones were all significantly shorter than those of the hindlimb.<br />

In primitive animals, one expects to find the forelimbs and<br />

hindlimbs to be about equal length. In Archaeopteryx, if you<br />

take the manus off and compare the arm length to the hindlimb<br />

length, you will find the forelimb is considerably longer than<br />

the hindlimb. So in comparison to the primitive plesiomorphic<br />

condition, even the dromeosaurs are shortened and Archaeopteryx<br />

is elongated like a bird. It seems evolution is going in different<br />

directions."<br />

4. Do WE HAVE THE RIGHT PERSPECTIVE?—Through the<br />

course of the roundtable, questions regarding the group's perspective<br />

or orientation to the question of the origin of flight<br />

were expressed. These thoughtful comments do, of course,<br />

force us to evaluate our own perspectives and biases and serve<br />

to stimulate new lines of investigation. Paul noted, "There is<br />

another issue people have not really looked at. I have done calculations<br />

on the number of insects a ground-dwelling, insect-eating<br />

bird the size of Archaeopteryx would have to consume.<br />

Flying insects are a very small package of energy so you<br />

have to get a lot of them; something like 100 of them per day if<br />

the protobird had an overall energy budget similar to modem<br />

Aves. And I did the figures to determine how far it would have<br />

to mn and so on to catch these things and the numbers did not<br />

work out very well. The foraging range, mnning an average of<br />

10 miles per hour, would be far beyond that observed for animals<br />

living today. So there are real serious energetic problems<br />

with the historic insect-catching hypothesis. Most insectivores<br />

the size of Archaeopteryx or bigger tend to feed on insect colonies<br />

so they can have a concentrated resource. Most insectivores<br />

that feed on individual insects are small so they do not<br />

have to eat so many each day. The basic insect catching hypothesis<br />

is energetically very implausible." A question was<br />

raised, "Where did you get the numbers for the insects?" "I just<br />

looked them up," Paul responded. He continued by saying,<br />

"There exists no animal today that mns around on the ground<br />

and gets the majority of its energy from flying insects. Probably<br />

energetically this is not a good idea. Plus you are fighting<br />

gravity, and the insects are far superior in agility; it is just not a<br />

good idea."<br />

Andrzej Elzanowski cautioned the group early in the discussion<br />

to be careful about adaptive arguments that simply support<br />

either an arboreal theory or cursorial theory for the origin of<br />

flight by saying, "I find something in our approach to be very<br />

confusing, and I may be speaking for others as well. Today I<br />

have heard much about coupling morphology to environmental<br />

factors. For example, there is coupling of arboreal adaptations<br />

with gliding to support an arboreal origin of flight. I think this<br />

linking of one model of the origin of flight with the peculiar

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