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PathWalkers.Net Interactive :: Helping you along your path Siikala writes about moving the demon from someone to another. In finnish folklore it is usuall to remove a disease from patient to an animal or some idol, like wooden puppet. This is common between Middle- and East-Siperia shaman too. She remind, that even Jesus removed demon from a man to some pigs. (page 187) There is information about this kind of "removing" in German and Estonia too. In Finland this was usually done by soothsaying, but this was not common in Middle-Europe or Scandinavia. Siikala guesses, that this habit has very old shamanistic roots and that the churhes middle-age tradition has forced this old religion.(pages 188-189) In these cases animals are shamans helpers and they carry the evil demon away. Shamans (spiritual) animal helpers are also spyes, Shaman can send them far away to collect information what is happening. Helpres also carry the information from here to the "heaven". "Because shamans helper animal do not only to take the disease to themselves, but carry it to "heaven" (or "to the other side" as shamans say), they are not usually (real) animals"(page 191). Siikkala says, that middle age church adopted these old ideas and they used the idea to their rituals (to carry out demons). Shamans used to call their helpers for instance by singing (and using the drum). In my opinion it is surely understandable that shaman was all the time demonstrating to the audience, that he has very important helpers. The shaman uses his helpers to fight agains other shamans helpers, too. So when shaman is healing a patent, he first find's out where the disease has become, and then force it to go back. If the disease is caused by demon, you have to fight against demon. If it is caused by other shaman with his helpers, so the helpers must fight together.(as Carlo Ginzburg's "benandati" did). The idea about shamans fighting together is old and it is common in Northern-Asia, too. In Siperia tradition the fighning shamans could take a shape of animals. But I could not find any reason to believe that the helper animals were real animals in Siikalas book either. According to Joan's Witch Pages they executed a dog in Salem Witch trials. This is something I had not pointed out earlier. If they really executed the dog, so I'll have to reuse my argument: why they did not executed other suspected "pets" too (if the "pet theory" is right)? THE TRIALS OF FAMILIARS One reason why they may not have executed pets is because the law assumed that these creatures were supernatural beings - by definition. If the animals had been captured, brought to court, examined by authorities, etc., it would have been difficult to avoid the conclusion that the witch's cat or dog was, in fact, no different from any other cat or dog. In addition, according to folklore, these animals could not be killed by ordinary means because they were spirits. We have found one account, for example, of a suspected http://www.pathwalkers.net/interactive/modules....ame=News&file=index&catid=1&topic=&allstories=1 (200 of 236) [12/25/2005 12:17:44 AM]

PathWalkers.Net Interactive :: Helping you along your path familiar (a poodle dog called Boye, belonging to Prince Rupert) being killed by a silver bullet fired by a 'soldier skilled in necromancy' at the battle of Marston Moor in 1642. Also, perhaps it was assumed that the familiars would perish as soon as the witch was executed, since they were assumed to depend on her/him for nourishment (coincidently, of course, the animals probably didn't survive for long once their owners were incarcerated and executed). However, I agree with you that the fate of these animals is somewhat mysterious. My guess would be that the witch's neighbours dealt with them swiftly and discretely, but I have no evidence either way. I wasn't aware of the Salem dog execution but will now look into this. In the bestiality trials, the animals were not generally executed as criminals. Rather they seem to have been regarded as polluted creatures which might have a corrupting influence on public morality if allowed to remain alive. Thus, there was a particular incentive to identify these (real) animals and kill them. (77 Reads) comments? General information: Stress Posted by: Nyxks on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 02:29 AM by Karen L. Scheel With the fast pace of the world stress has become unavoidable in our lives and is the source of many problems. Various studies have revealed that stress can seriously compromise the mental, emotional and physical health of an individual. It clouds our ability to think clearly, interferes with our ability to relate to others and lowers the function of our immune system. If left uncontrolled stress is a contributing factor to most all health problems from heart disease, strokes, cancer, headaches, colds etc. The cause of stress can either stem internally or externally and is known as the stressor. On an external level technology has become a major stressor in that it gives us the ability to achieve everything very quickly. We in turn on an internal level seem to be constantly pushing to do even more, which contributes to a very hectic way of life, because we can not keep up with the fast pace of technology. With so many demands being placed upon our limited time stress has become the primary cause affecting efficiency and effectiveness in all aspects of our being. It impacts our both our professional and personal performance on all levels. In the workplace, stress is one of the major reasons for the the use of sick time. If stress contributes to illness then reducing stress would have the opposite effect and even encourage healing. Being able to recognize that we are stressed is the first step toward understanding, managing and appropriately reducing its effects. Learning how to condition ourselves and gain some control over the influence of stress is the most important step we can take towards reducing it. Studies have also shown that regular relaxation eventually makes the body less responsive to stress hormones and acts as a natural tranquilizer. Handling stress effectively involves the development of psychological, physical and spiritual buffers that http://www.pathwalkers.net/interactive/modules....ame=News&file=index&catid=1&topic=&allstories=1 (201 of 236) [12/25/2005 12:17:44 AM]

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Siikala writes about moving the demon from someone to another. In finnish folklore it is<br />

usuall to remove a disease from patient to an animal or some idol, like wooden puppet.<br />

This is common between Middle- and East-Siperia shaman too. She remind, that even<br />

Jesus removed demon from a man to some pigs. (page 187)<br />

There is information about this kind of "removing" in German and Estonia too. In<br />

Finland this was usually done by soothsaying, but this was not common in<br />

Middle-Europe or Scandinavia.<br />

Siikala guesses, that this habit has very old shamanistic roots and that the churhes<br />

middle-age tradition has forced this old religion.(pages 188-189)<br />

In these cases animals are shamans helpers and they carry the evil demon away. Shamans<br />

(spiritual) animal helpers are also spyes, Shaman can send them far away to collect<br />

information what is happening. Helpres also carry the information from here to the<br />

"heaven". "Because shamans helper animal do not only to take the disease to themselves,<br />

but carry it to "heaven" (or "to the other side" as shamans say), they are not usually (real)<br />

animals"(page 191).<br />

Siikkala says, that middle age church adopted these old ideas and they used the idea to<br />

their rituals (to carry out demons).<br />

Shamans used to call their helpers for instance by singing (and using the drum). In my<br />

opinion it is surely understandable that shaman was all the time demonstrating to the<br />

audience, that he has very important helpers.<br />

The shaman uses his helpers to fight agains other shamans helpers, too. So when shaman<br />

is healing a patent, he first find's out where the disease has become, and then force it to<br />

go back. If the disease is caused by demon, you have to fight against demon. If it is<br />

caused by other shaman with his helpers, so the helpers must fight together.(as Carlo<br />

Ginzburg's "benandati" did).<br />

The idea about shamans fighting together is old and it is common in Northern-Asia, too.<br />

In Siperia tradition the fighning shamans could take a shape of animals.<br />

But I could not find any reason to believe that the helper animals were real animals in<br />

Siikalas book either.<br />

According to Joan's Witch Pages they executed a dog in Salem Witch trials. This is<br />

something I had not pointed out earlier. If they really executed the dog, so I'll have to<br />

reuse my argument: why they did not executed other suspected "pets" too (if the "pet<br />

theory" is right)?<br />

THE TRIALS OF FAMILIARS<br />

One reason why they may not have executed pets is because the law assumed that these<br />

creatures were supernatural beings - by definition. If the animals had been captured,<br />

brought to court, examined by authorities, etc., it would have been difficult to avoid the<br />

conclusion that the witch's cat or dog was, in fact, no different from any other cat or dog.<br />

In addition, according to folklore, these animals could not be killed by ordinary means<br />

because they were spirits. We have found one account, for example, of a suspected<br />

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