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PathWalkers.Net Interactive :: Helping you along your path If they weren't aware of sending, they will probably just assume they are being attacked and take countermeasures. If they follow the 3 steps above, fine, nothing is damaged. But many of them will immediately think they have to put up a defensive mirror, or maybe worse (see below; they may decide to teach you a lesson for attacking them). Few people naturally respond to perceived attacks positively (especially if they are in such a bad mood already as to be sending without even realizing it). Another serious concern is getting drawn into a unacknowledged feud by your own weaknesses. It is often agreed that one should reflect back exactly what is received, without adding anything of one's own. But the same people who advocate that may use terms implying "returning it with enthusiasm". There appears to be an easily tapped source of self-righteousness in most people feeling attacked, and it is very hard not to get drawn into imagining, at some level, the satisfying effects of the energy going back to the attacker; that draws one into a "counter-attack" even without realizing it. Grounding it does not. Watch for yourself when people are discussing "returning to sender"; see if there isn't very often a hidden desire for revenge or retribution lurking there grasping for their "control panel" - and deflecting their normal attempts at staying centered by claiming to do no more than is "justified". Justified is not the question; self knowledge and balance are. There is another thread which shows up often in discussions like these; the need to "teach the sender a lesson". In some cases, I have even heard this justified as "protecting the community". This way lies many did the goddess give you an "agent of threefold return" marshall's badge, that exempts you from any consequences "because you are just an agent"? That hubris is gonna teach some hard lessons, but the self appointed marshall may be the major recipient. It would be a little bit healthier to just shed the self-righteousness and call it an ego driven feud. "Teaching them a lesson" gets filed under the pitfalls of righteousness, the ways that one's own weaknesses seduce one. Also consider, what if despite your initial impression, the negative energy is really coming from inside, from part of you? Are you going to be better off "reflecting it back" (maybe with additional conscious or unconscious oomph) or grounding it? "Gee, I returned it but good, and now they have stepped it up; the sender really needs a lesson!". That may be more true than you know, bucko. Notice that nowhere do we say that one has no "right" to put up a reflective shield; of course one does, and is fully justified. Also, possibly, unwise. There is a distinction between what one has a "right" to do in "self defense", and what is wise to get drawn into. Reflecting it is neither necessary, nor likely to produce positive results, but if that itself is the lesson to be learned, what can I say? Each chooses their own path, and that is as it should be. At least if one has considered the above, one should know what they are stepping into. (55 Reads) comments? General information: Animals In Witchcraft (Animals On Trial) Posted by: Nyxks on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 02:32 AM WITCHES AND CATS "The rise of Christianity in Europe heralded a fundamental shift in attitudes to cats. During the Middle Ages, the cat's links with the ancient, pagan cult of the mother goddess inspired a wave of persecution that lasted several hundred years. Branded as agents of the Devil, and the chosen companions of witches and necromancers, cats, especially black ones, were enthusiastically tortured and executed during Christian festivals all over Europe. It was also believed that witches disguised themselves as cats as a means of traveling around incognito, so anyone encountering a stray cat at night felt obliged to try and kill or maim the animal. By teaching people to associate cats with the Devil and bad luck, it appears that the Church provided the underprivileged and superstitious masses with a sort of universal scapegoat, something to blame for all of the many hardships and misfortunes of life. Fortunately for cats, such attitudes began to disappear gradually during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries with the dawn of the so-called Age of Enlightenment. However, not until the middle of the nineteenth century did cats eventually begin to regain the popularity they once enjoyed in Ancient Egypt." http://www.pathwalkers.net/interactive/modules....ame=News&file=index&catid=&topic=1&allstories=1 (250 of 284) [12/25/2005 12:22:23 AM]

PathWalkers.Net Interactive :: Helping you along your path LOCUST ON TRIAL The discussion so far has put me in mind of a terrific book I once read on European animal trials, which were conducted up until I think the 17th century. One example especially pertinent to the topic at hand: if a plague of caterpillars or locusts or whatever infested an area, the local legal community would put the swarm on trial. A locust would be captured and taken to the courthouse. It would become the "defendant" , and would in effect stand-in for the whole swarm. The trial would be conducted with all pomp and circumstance, with a lawyer appointed to represent the swarm and etc. There were a number of standard defensive strategies, and sometimes the swarm was even judged innocent if their lawyer was especially able. If judged guilty, however, the locusts were ordered to get out of town. If the infestation abated, the trial was given credit. If the infestation continued, this does not appear to have been seen as an argument against conducting animal trials in the future. I trust the resemblance to the raindance ceremony is fairly clear here. The author of the book (I cannot recall the title or author; I remember that it was published in the early 1900s and the cover shows a reproduction of an old print, portraying the public execution of a pig by hanging) argues that such trials are an attempt by the human community to intervene in the natural order, to exert its will over the world. I think this is a pretty insightful comment. "Exerting human will over the world" could serve as a definition of the goal of science. Bacon sometimes describes science as the human "conquest" of nature, and certainly many modern critiques of science (feminist, for example) have taken this to be the self-defined goal of scientific inquiry. I'm not arguing for the ultimate truth of this particular position, but on the other hand if you look at things along these lines than certain aspects of religious and scientific thought seem to be closely related, at least in their purpose. Bacon's studies of heat are supposed to yield a (universal) process for making heat, the shaman leading a raindance is trying to make it rain, the animal trial is an attempt to bring the plague to an end etc. Note that the various rituals used for bringing about these interventions don't have to work very well in each case for the ritual to be accepted within the community. The community may simply accept that human powers are limited in what they can accomplish. I believe that within alchemical studies this was a common view; even if all the processes were carried out correctly, you might still not create gold from lead or whatever, and in fact usually would not. Note also that the ritual might have multiple functions within the community. The rain-dance both be used for bringing rain and bringing about group solidarity. These are not mutually exclusive. Again, I have read something similar with respect to alchemical procedures; that the alchemist "purifying" metals with his various tools is also going through a process of spiritual purification. And certainly the animal trial, even if it does not drive out the infestation, makes the community feel better. The community is "doing something" about its situation, even if its acts are ineffective. I also like the animal trial example because it muddies the waters here in interesting ways. The conversation to date has concerned itself with comparing/contrasting religious/scientific thought. Yet here we see legal institutions using their procedures in a way that suggests a religious ritual. Conversations on the distinctions / similarities between legal and religious thought, and legal and scientific thought, would also be good to have. THE ANIMALS OF SALEM Salem Story: Reading the Witch Trials of 1692 by Bernard Rosenthal Cambridge University Press 1993 p.18 John Hughes, while testifying about seeing beast transform into Sarah Good, Sarah Osborne, and Tituba, also mentions that on March 2 "a great white dog followed him and then disappeared, and then that night in bed he saw a great light and a cat at the foot of his bed." (from Narratives of the WC Cases 1648-1706 ed. G. LO. Burr) p.21 Tituba's testimony included many animals...black dog / hog / man / yellow bird told her to serve him; yellow bird was accompanying Sarah Good (who had already given accusers legitimacy); also said she saw a cat with Good on other occasions http://www.pathwalkers.net/interactive/modules....ame=News&file=index&catid=&topic=1&allstories=1 (251 of 284) [12/25/2005 12:22:23 AM]

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LOCUST ON TRIAL<br />

The discussion so far has put me in mind of a terrific book I once read on European animal trials, which<br />

were conducted up until I think the 17th century. One example especially pertinent to the topic at hand: if<br />

a plague of caterpillars or locusts or whatever infested an area, the local legal community would put the<br />

swarm on trial. A locust would be captured and taken to the courthouse. It would become the "defendant"<br />

, and would in effect stand-in for the whole swarm. The trial would be conducted with all pomp and<br />

circumstance, with a lawyer appointed to represent the swarm and etc. There were a number of standard<br />

defensive strategies, and sometimes the swarm was even judged innocent if their lawyer was especially<br />

able. If judged guilty, however, the locusts were ordered to get out of town. If the infestation abated, the<br />

trial was given credit. If the infestation continued, this does not appear to have been seen as an argument<br />

against conducting animal trials in the future. I trust the resemblance to the raindance ceremony is fairly<br />

clear here.<br />

The author of the book (I cannot recall the title or author; I remember that it was published in the early<br />

1900s and the cover shows a reproduction of an old print, portraying the public execution of a pig by<br />

hanging) argues that such trials are an attempt by the human community to intervene in the natural order,<br />

to exert its will over the world. I think this is a pretty insightful comment.<br />

"Exerting human will over the world" could serve as a definition of the goal of science. Bacon sometimes<br />

describes science as the human "conquest" of nature, and certainly many modern critiques of science<br />

(feminist, for example) have taken this to be the self-defined goal of scientific inquiry. I'm not arguing<br />

for the ultimate truth of this particular position, but on the other hand if you look at things along these<br />

lines than certain aspects of religious and scientific thought seem to be closely related, at least in their<br />

purpose. Bacon's studies of heat are supposed to yield a (universal) process for making heat, the shaman<br />

leading a raindance is trying to make it rain, the animal trial is an attempt to bring the plague to an end<br />

etc.<br />

Note that the various rituals used for bringing about these interventions don't have to work very well in<br />

each case for the ritual to be accepted within the community. The community may simply accept that<br />

human powers are limited in what they can accomplish. I believe that within alchemical studies this was<br />

a common view; even if all the processes were carried out correctly, you might still not create gold from<br />

lead or whatever, and in fact usually would not. Note also that the ritual might have multiple functions<br />

within the community. The rain-dance both be used for bringing rain and bringing about group solidarity.<br />

These are not mutually exclusive. Again, I have read something similar with respect to alchemical<br />

procedures; that the alchemist "purifying" metals with his various tools is also going through a process of<br />

spiritual purification. And certainly the animal trial, even if it does not drive out the infestation, makes<br />

the community feel better. The community is "doing something" about its situation, even if its acts are<br />

ineffective.<br />

I also like the animal trial example because it muddies the waters here in interesting ways. The<br />

conversation to date has concerned itself with comparing/contrasting religious/scientific thought. Yet<br />

here we see legal institutions using their procedures in a way that suggests a religious ritual.<br />

Conversations on the distinctions / similarities between legal and religious thought, and legal and<br />

scientific thought, would also be good to have.<br />

THE ANIMALS OF SALEM<br />

Salem Story: Reading the Witch Trials of 1692 by Bernard Rosenthal Cambridge University Press 1993<br />

p.18 John Hughes, while testifying about seeing beast transform into Sarah Good, Sarah Osborne, and<br />

Tituba, also mentions that on March 2 "a great white dog followed him and then disappeared, and then<br />

that night in bed he saw a great light and a cat at the foot of his bed." (from Narratives of the WC Cases<br />

1648-1706 ed. G. LO. Burr)<br />

p.21 Tituba's testimony included many animals...black dog / hog / man / yellow bird told her to serve<br />

him; yellow bird was accompanying Sarah Good (who had already given accusers legitimacy); also said<br />

she saw a cat with Good on other occasions<br />

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