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CHAPTER 27. BAPTISM: WADING FOR GODOT I will also have a classless society, but it will be of rich people. If Marx succeeds, he will also have a classless society – but phony. First, it will be of poor people. Secondly, because of those poor people, you will need a very strong and powerful bureaucracy to keep them down; otherwise they will revolt. In America there is a possibility of a revolution, but in Russia you cannot conceive even the idea of revolution. You cannot talk with anybody about revolution. The very word will be enough for you to evaporate in some gas chamber Russia is not classless. America is not classless. Yes, different classes, but nobody is classless. And when the pope says that the idea of a class struggle is a sin, he certainly implies that the idea of creating a classless society is also a sin. No, the poor should remain poor, the rich should remain rich. The very idea of class helps the so-called religions, because if everybody is rich and everybody has everything that is needed and everybody lives comfortably and luxuriously, who is going to bother about your heaven? Instead people will pray, ”Please, send me back to the earth. I don’t want to come to your heaven.” In the first place heaven will be a very ancient place – perhaps even bullock carts may not be available there, because I have never heard that God created bullock carts. And the spinning wheel... I sometimes feel sad for Mahatma Gandhi: if he has reached heaven, what will he be doing? – because the spinning wheel is not available there. There is no mention in any religious scripture that the spinning wheel is available to the angels. Mahatma Gandhi will be simply dying to get back to the earth to find his spinning wheel again, because the whole day he was spinning. In the train, traveling, he was spinning; talking to people, he was spinning; dictating letters, he was spinning; dictating articles, he was spinning. He carried the spinning wheel everywhere. There is no need for poverty, but the spinning wheel will keep people poor. Even if you spin for twelve hours a day you will not be able to create enough clothes for yourself And there are other things to do, not just make clothes. You will need to eat something, drink something. And there are many other things you will need, not just clothes. Even if after twelve hours spinning you can make enough clothes to cover your body somehow, by that time the body will have disappeared because there will not be any food. Gandhi wanted cultivation also to be done by ancient methods. That would mean that India had to fall back to Buddha’s time, twenty-five centuries back. Then there were only twenty million people in India. Now there are seven hundred million people in India. You would have to cut out six hundred and eighty million people completely. And this will be non-violent? Yes, two million people, twenty million people are capable of living by ancient methods – a little food they can manage – but what to do with seven hundred million people? By the end of this century India will be the most populous country in the world, it will have gone farther ahead than China. Right now China has the biggest population: it has one hundred... one thousand hundred – those From Ignorance to Innocence 406 Osho
CHAPTER 27. BAPTISM: WADING FOR GODOT numbers! – one thousand million people. India will have passed beyond that by the end of this century. But there will be more orphans, more poor people to be converted to Catholicism, to be made Christians, and more Mother Teresas. No, a man asleep cannot do right. You ask me: what is right, what is wrong? I say to you to be awake is right. To be asleep is wrong. I don’t determine acts wrong and right as such. My focus is your being. My effort is that you are there, in your being. Then whatever you do is right. A Zen monk used to steal – and he was a great Master – but I say it was right because he was fully awake. Now, stealing in itself does not matter; whether it is right or wrong. It is a question of who is doing it. And why was this Master stealing? He had never said why in his whole life. All his disciples suffered for it because everybody was telling them, ”What kind of Master have you got? He talks about great things and then suddenly one day you find him stealing some small thing. And he always gets caught. Even ordinary thieves don’t always get caught. And you say he is fully aware, careful, alert. And we understand, because even his disciples have a different quality surrounding them. And we know your Master, we see him. We are surprised – why should he steal?” And the disciples used to ask him and he would simply laugh. At last, when he was dying, a disciple said, ”Now at least tell us why you were doing this stupid thing. And you have not been stealing big treasures or anything, just somebody’s cup and saucer, somebody’s coat, somebody’s shoes, even one shoe! – which is meaningless. What were you going to do with one shoe? – and then too you would be caught. And the judges are tired of you, the jailers are tired of you.” At the last moment he said, ”I was stealing because nobody takes care of those thieves and prisoners inside the jail. That’s a great place to teach awareness; and those people are very innocent. And I love them because I have found them getting the idea more quickly than the socalled ordinary people. So I have been stealing and going inside the jail because that was the only way to get in. But those idiot judges would not send me for a long time, for two months, three months, because I am a great Zen Master. ”I used to tell them, ’Give me as long a term as you can manage,’ and they would say, ’What kind of man are you? We respect you. What do you want for just stealing one shoe – that we should send you for your whole life? Fifteen days will do.’” From Ignorance to Innocence 407 Osho
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CHAPTER 27. BAPTISM: WADING FOR GODOT<br />
I will also have a classless society, but it will be of rich people. If Marx succeeds, he will also have<br />
a classless society – but phony. First, it will be of poor people. Secondly, because of those poor<br />
people, you will need a very strong and powerful bureaucracy <strong>to</strong> keep them down; otherwise they<br />
will revolt.<br />
In America there is a possibility of a revolution, but in Russia you cannot conceive even the idea of<br />
revolution. You cannot talk with anybody about revolution. The very word will be enough for you <strong>to</strong><br />
evaporate in some gas chamber<br />
Russia is not classless. America is not classless.<br />
Yes, different classes, but nobody is classless. And when the pope says that the idea of a class<br />
struggle is a sin, he certainly implies that the idea of creating a classless society is also a sin. No,<br />
the poor should remain poor, the rich should remain rich.<br />
The very idea of class helps the so-called religions, because if everybody is rich and everybody has<br />
everything that is needed and everybody lives <strong>com</strong>fortably and luxuriously, who is going <strong>to</strong> bother<br />
about your heaven? Instead people will pray, ”Please, send me back <strong>to</strong> the earth. I don’t want <strong>to</strong><br />
<strong>com</strong>e <strong>to</strong> your heaven.”<br />
In the first place heaven will be a very ancient place – perhaps even bullock carts may not be<br />
available there, because I have never heard that God created bullock carts. And the spinning<br />
wheel... I sometimes feel sad for Mahatma Gandhi: if he has reached heaven, what will he be<br />
doing? – because the spinning wheel is not available there. There is no mention in any religious<br />
scripture that the spinning wheel is available <strong>to</strong> the angels.<br />
Mahatma Gandhi will be simply dying <strong>to</strong> get back <strong>to</strong> the earth <strong>to</strong> find his spinning wheel again,<br />
because the whole day he was spinning. In the train, traveling, he was spinning; talking <strong>to</strong> people,<br />
he was spinning; dictating letters, he was spinning; dictating articles, he was spinning. He carried<br />
the spinning wheel everywhere.<br />
There is no need for poverty, but the spinning wheel will keep people poor. Even if you spin for<br />
twelve hours a day you will not be able <strong>to</strong> create enough clothes for yourself And there are other<br />
things <strong>to</strong> do, not just make clothes. You will need <strong>to</strong> eat something, drink something. And there are<br />
many other things you will need, not just clothes. Even if after twelve hours spinning you can make<br />
enough clothes <strong>to</strong> cover your body somehow, by that time the body will have disappeared because<br />
there will not be any food.<br />
Gandhi wanted cultivation also <strong>to</strong> be done by ancient methods. That would mean that India had <strong>to</strong><br />
fall back <strong>to</strong> Buddha’s time, twenty-five centuries back. Then there were only twenty million people in<br />
India. Now there are seven hundred million people in India. You would have <strong>to</strong> cut out six hundred<br />
and eighty million people <strong>com</strong>pletely. And this will be non-violent?<br />
Yes, two million people, twenty million people are capable of living by ancient methods – a little food<br />
they can manage – but what <strong>to</strong> do with seven hundred million people? By the end of this century<br />
India will be the most populous country in the world, it will have gone farther ahead than China.<br />
Right now China has the biggest population: it has one hundred... one thousand hundred – those<br />
<strong>From</strong> <strong>Ignorance</strong> <strong>to</strong> <strong>Innocence</strong> 406 <strong>Osho</strong>