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CHAPTER 15. THEY SAY BELIEVE; I SAY EXPLORE<br />

He said, ”That I have never thought of. Perhaps the question will not arise, because in hundreds<br />

of meetings and conferences, I have been sitting on the high pedestal, but the question has never<br />

arisen.”<br />

I said, ”That makes it clear that it is not a question of why Acharya Tulsi is sitting higher than you.<br />

The question is why you are sitting lower than Acharya Tulsi. Change the question <strong>to</strong> why are you<br />

sitting lower than Acharya Tulsi – this is what you should have asked. It would have been more<br />

authentic. You are projecting your sickness on somebody else.<br />

”But perhaps that somebody else is also as sick as you, because if I was in his place... in the first<br />

place, I would not have sat there – if I was the host and you were my guests. Secondly, if by chance,<br />

by some coincidence, I was sitting there, the moment you asked the question I would have <strong>com</strong>e<br />

down. That would have been enough of an answer:’There is no problem; it is just our convention<br />

and I forgot that you are my guests, because only once a year do I meet guests, but every day I<br />

meet my disciples. So just forgive me and let us start our conversation for which we have gathered.’<br />

”But he did not <strong>com</strong>e down. He has no guts. He is sitting there almost dead, he cannot even breathe<br />

he is so afraid. And he has no answer – he asked his secretary <strong>to</strong> answer you. And the question that<br />

you have raised about which he is also silent, is that he has been proclaiming himself a revolutionary<br />

saint. He is neither a revolutionary, nor a saint, so what answer can he give <strong>to</strong> you? But my basic<br />

concern is not him, my basic concern is you. This is the political mind who is always thinking in<br />

terms of lower and higher, in terms of power.”<br />

Of course he was angry, and is still angry, and has remained angry for all these twenty-four, twentyfive<br />

years. And he has been in positions from where he could have harmed me, but he has no guts<br />

either. He was deputy prime minister and then became prime minister. Before he became prime<br />

minister, he had even asked my help. He had called me, unaware – later on he came <strong>to</strong> know that<br />

<strong>to</strong> call me was absolutely absurd. He was Indira Gandhi’s deputy prime minister; the post is not in<br />

the constitution itself<br />

The first prime minister of India, Jawaharlal Nehru, had a clash with another disciple of Gandhi’s,<br />

Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel. The clash was such that if voting was allowed then Vallabhbhai Patel<br />

would have won. He was a real politician. He was just like Joseph Stalin.<br />

Joseph Stalin was the secretary of the <strong>com</strong>munist party when the revolution happened. He was not<br />

a great leader or anything. His function was in the office – he was the head clerk of the <strong>com</strong>munist<br />

party <strong>to</strong> put it exactly. But because he was the secretary, he knew everything, everything passed<br />

through his hands. Every person had <strong>to</strong> be acquainted with him, and he had a tremendous grip on<br />

people.<br />

The same was the situation with Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel. He was a man, very strong, I <strong>to</strong>ld you,<br />

just like Joseph Stalin. Stalin is not his real name, it was just given <strong>to</strong> him because it means in<br />

Russian, ”man of steel”. Strangely, Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel was called in India lauha purush, that<br />

also means ”man of steel”. It is exactly the translation of ”stalin”.<br />

Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel had a grip on the organization, an inside grip. He was not an impressive<br />

person like Jawaharlal in public. If the whole of India was going <strong>to</strong> vote, Jawaharlal would have won,<br />

<strong>From</strong> <strong>Ignorance</strong> <strong>to</strong> <strong>Innocence</strong> 200 <strong>Osho</strong>

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