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CHAPTER 11. TRUTH: NOT A DOGMA BUT A DANCE are infallible – are wrong. Just a single man, Galileo, destroys the whole pretension. The whole hypocrisy he exposes. His mouth has to be shut. He was old, dying, on his deathbed, but he was forced, almost dragged, to the court of the pope to ask for an apology. And the pope demanded: ”You change it in your book, because the holy book cannot be wrong. You are a mere human being; you can be wrong; but jesus Christ cannot be wrong, God Himself cannot be wrong, hundreds of infallible popes cannot be wrong.... You are standing against God, His son, and His representatives. You simply change it!” Galileo must have been a man with an immense sense of humor – which I count to be one of the great qualities of a religious man. Only idiots are serious; they are bound to be serious. To be able to laugh you need a little intelligence. It is said that an Englishman laughs twice when he hears a joke: once, just to be nice to the fellow who is telling the joke, out of etiquette, a mannerism; and second, in the middle of the night when he gets the meaning of the joke. The German laughs only once, just to show that he has understood it. The Jew never laughs; he simply says, ”In the first place you are telling it all wrong....” You need a little intelligence, and Galileo must have been intelligent. He was one of the greatest scientists of the world, but he must be counted as one of the most religious persons also. He said, ”Of course God cannot be wrong, Jesus cannot be wrong, all the infallible popes cannot be wrong, but poor Galileo can always be wrong. There is no problem about it – i will change it in my book. But one thing you should remember: the earth will still go around the sun. About that I cannot do anything; it does not follow my orders. As far as my book is concerned I will change it, but in the note I will have to write this:’The earth does not follow my orders, it still goes around the sun.’” Each step of science, religion was against. The earth is flat, according to the Bible, not round. When Columbus started thinking of going on a trip with the idea that the earth is round, his arithmetic was simple: ”If I continue journeying directly, one day I am bound to come back to the same point from where I started... the whole circle.” But everybody was against it. The pope called Columbus and told him, ”Don’t be foolish! The Bible says it clearly: it is flat. Soon you will reach the edge of this flat earth and you will fall from there. And do you know where you will fall? Heaven is above, and you cannot fall upwards – or can you? You will fall downwards into hell. So don’t go on this journey and don’t persuade other people to go on this journey.” Columbus insisted that he was going; he went on the journey and opened the doors of the new world. We owe so much to Columbus that we are not aware of The world that we know was brought to light by Columbus. If he had listened to the pope, the infallible pope, who was talking just nonsense – but his nonsense was very holy, religious.... All the religions of the world are bound to pretend that whatsoever there is, they know it. And they know it exactly as it is; it cannot be otherwise. Jainas say their tirthankara, their prophet, their messiah is omniscient. He knows everything – past, present and future, so whatsoever he says is the absolute truth. Buddha has joked about Mahavira, the Jaina messiah. They were contemporaries twenty-five centuries ago. Mahavira was getting old, From Ignorance to Innocence 142 Osho
CHAPTER 11. TRUTH: NOT A DOGMA BUT A DANCE but Buddha was young and was still capable of joking and laughing. He was still young and alive – he was not yet established. Once you become an established religion, then you have your vested interests. Mahavira had an established religion thousands of years old, perhaps the oldest religion of the world – because Hindus say, and say rightly, that they have the oldest book in the world, the Rig Veda. Certainly it is now scientifically proved that the Rig Veda is the oldest scripture that has survived. But in the Rig Veda, the first Jaina messiah is mentioned; that is proof enough that the Jaina messiah has preceded the Rig Veda. And he is mentioned: his name is Rishabhadeva. He is mentioned with a respect that it is impossible to have towards a contemporary. It is just human weakness, but it is very difficult to be respectful towards somebody who is contemporary and alive, just like you. It is easy to be respectful to somebody who has died long ago. The way the Rig Veda remembers Rishabhadeva is so respectful that it seems that he must have been dead for at least a thousand years, not less that that, so Jainism is a long-established religion. Buddhism was just starting with Buddha. He could afford to joke and laugh, so he jokes against Mahavira and his omnipotence, omniscience, and omnipresence. He says, ”I have seen Mahavira standing before a house begging” – because Mahavira lived naked and used to beg just with his hands. Buddha says, ”I have seen him standing before a house which was empty. There was nobody in the house – and yet this man, Jainas say, is a knower, not only of the present, but of the past and the future.” Buddha says, ”i saw Mahavira walking just ahead of me, and he stepped on a dog’s tail. It was early morning and it was not yet light. Only when the dog jumped, barking, did Mahavira come to know that he had stepped on his tail. This man is omniscient, and he does not know that a dog is sleeping right in his way, and he is going to step on his tail.” But the same happened with Buddha when he became established. After three hundred years, when his sayings and statements were collected for the first time, the disciples made it absolutely clear that ”everything written here is absolutely true, and it is going to remain true forever.” Now, in those statements there are so many idiotic things which may have been meaningful twentyfive centuries ago but today they are not meaningful because so much has happened in twenty-five centuries. Buddha had no idea of Karl Marx, he had no idea of Sigmund Freud... so what he has written or stated is bound to be based only on the knowledge which was available at that time. ”A man is poor, because in his past life he has committed bad actions.” Now, after Marx, you cannot say that. ”A man is rich because he has committed good actions in his past life.” Now, after Marx, you cannot say that. And I don’t think Buddha had any idea that there was going to be a Karl Marx, although his disciples say that whatsoever he said is going to remain true forever – another way of saying that he is omniscient. This was a good consolation for the poor, that if they did good works, in their future lives they also would be rich. It was a joy for the rich too: ”We are rich because we have done good works in our past life.” And they know perfectly well what good works they are doing right now... and their riches are increasing every day; their past life is finished with long ago and yet their riches go on increasing. The poor people go on becoming poorer and the rich go on becoming richer. From Ignorance to Innocence 143 Osho
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CHAPTER 11. TRUTH: NOT A DOGMA BUT A DANCE<br />
are infallible – are wrong. Just a single man, Galileo, destroys the whole pretension. The whole<br />
hypocrisy he exposes. His mouth has <strong>to</strong> be shut. He was old, dying, on his deathbed, but he was<br />
forced, almost dragged, <strong>to</strong> the court of the pope <strong>to</strong> ask for an apology.<br />
And the pope demanded: ”You change it in your book, because the holy book cannot be wrong. You<br />
are a mere human being; you can be wrong; but jesus Christ cannot be wrong, God Himself cannot<br />
be wrong, hundreds of infallible popes cannot be wrong.... You are standing against God, His son,<br />
and His representatives. You simply change it!”<br />
Galileo must have been a man with an immense sense of humor – which I count <strong>to</strong> be one of the<br />
great qualities of a religious man. Only idiots are serious; they are bound <strong>to</strong> be serious. To be able<br />
<strong>to</strong> laugh you need a little intelligence.<br />
It is said that an Englishman laughs twice when he hears a joke: once, just <strong>to</strong> be nice <strong>to</strong> the fellow<br />
who is telling the joke, out of etiquette, a mannerism; and second, in the middle of the night when he<br />
gets the meaning of the joke. The German laughs only once, just <strong>to</strong> show that he has unders<strong>to</strong>od it.<br />
The Jew never laughs; he simply says, ”In the first place you are telling it all wrong....”<br />
You need a little intelligence, and Galileo must have been intelligent. He was one of the greatest<br />
scientists of the world, but he must be counted as one of the most religious persons also. He said,<br />
”Of course God cannot be wrong, Jesus cannot be wrong, all the infallible popes cannot be wrong,<br />
but poor Galileo can always be wrong. There is no problem about it – i will change it in my book.<br />
But one thing you should remember: the earth will still go around the sun. About that I cannot do<br />
anything; it does not follow my orders. As far as my book is concerned I will change it, but in the<br />
note I will have <strong>to</strong> write this:’The earth does not follow my orders, it still goes around the sun.’”<br />
Each step of science, religion was against. The earth is flat, according <strong>to</strong> the Bible, not round. When<br />
Columbus started thinking of going on a trip with the idea that the earth is round, his arithmetic was<br />
simple: ”If I continue journeying directly, one day I am bound <strong>to</strong> <strong>com</strong>e back <strong>to</strong> the same point from<br />
where I started... the whole circle.” But everybody was against it.<br />
The pope called Columbus and <strong>to</strong>ld him, ”Don’t be foolish! The Bible says it clearly: it is flat. Soon<br />
you will reach the edge of this flat earth and you will fall from there. And do you know where you will<br />
fall? Heaven is above, and you cannot fall upwards – or can you? You will fall downwards in<strong>to</strong> hell.<br />
So don’t go on this journey and don’t persuade other people <strong>to</strong> go on this journey.”<br />
Columbus insisted that he was going; he went on the journey and opened the doors of the new world.<br />
We owe so much <strong>to</strong> Columbus that we are not aware of The world that we know was brought <strong>to</strong> light<br />
by Columbus. If he had listened <strong>to</strong> the pope, the infallible pope, who was talking just nonsense – but<br />
his nonsense was very holy, religious....<br />
All the religions of the world are bound <strong>to</strong> pretend that whatsoever there is, they know it. And they<br />
know it exactly as it is; it cannot be otherwise.<br />
Jainas say their tirthankara, their prophet, their messiah is omniscient. He knows everything – past,<br />
present and future, so whatsoever he says is the absolute truth. Buddha has joked about Mahavira,<br />
the Jaina messiah. They were contemporaries twenty-five centuries ago. Mahavira was getting old,<br />
<strong>From</strong> <strong>Ignorance</strong> <strong>to</strong> <strong>Innocence</strong> 142 <strong>Osho</strong>