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mutually ratify and support the symbolic and conversational nature of co-
participants selves at this point in the conversation and pursue a period of
negative alignment. Across lines 1-23, HB and GB explain the nature of EP
and RP studies. In response to this joint attempt to precisely define the nature
of these studies, in line 24 KH mobilises an examining self by asking the
question who wants to know (wer will das jetzt wissen) and whether or not EP
wird... vom Land oder von der Stadt bezahlt (line 24 - 26). This is done in a
rather direct manner and allows KH to demonstrate both his own reading of
RP and EPs statuses, and proffer a legitimate and perhaps fundamental
question - one which might question the actual validity of RP's and EP's
studies. Having failed to receive a suitable response to his question, KH in
line 36 - 37 re-mobilises an examining self by reiterating Mfie wird das
bezahlt' [Who's going to pay for that']. Following a short pause HB responds
with what I described earlier as a demeaned self which continues over lines
39 - 48. Over these lines, HB directly aligns himself to the examining self
mobilised by KH. However, rather than accepting HB's response as adequate
(as might an English speaker), KH continues further along his examinatory
lines path, by both rejecting HB's answer and implying that HB has quite
simply'nicht verstanden' [not understood] what he has been asking. At this
moment in the interaction GB in line 56 in effect launches a counter-
examinatory self by asking KHja, was heiRt, von wem wird sie bezahlt'.
Following this GB immediately provides a detailed explanation of EP's
situation regarding her current status and future work plans. This continues
until line 74 at which point GB finishes her turn at talk and the conversation
pauses. Finally, in line 82 - 85 HB re-mobilises a demeaned self to further
clarify the nature of research. Following a slight pause at line 86 SH enters
the conversation for the first time by asking 'was hat sie fCjr Sprachen studiert',
similar to the alignment effects of KH's original question. SH's mobilisation of
an examining self at line 87 results in HB and GB again mobilising demeaned
selves. This continues until line 108 at which point SH based on her close
listening of the talk over lines 89 - 108 concludes that EP's work has the
status of hobby, largely due to its non-paid status. This assertion is
immediately and unequivocally rejected by GB and HB in lines 113 and 114
with the word 'nee' followed by further clarification up until line 132.
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