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In terms <strong>of</strong> the selves mobilised, these in the first instance - due to the<br />

nature and relevance <strong>of</strong> the topic - can be classed as agonistic selves. The<br />

most salient manifestation is the way in which the topic is taken - not with<br />

exaggeration and humour (as was endemic to both the English episodes), but<br />

rather more seriously. Agonised selves are clearly mobilised not on their<br />

ability to entertain wit dramatic and factual licence, but to convey quite<br />

precisely their stance towards unemployment. The excerpts begins with a<br />

clear manifestation <strong>of</strong> this general agonised alignment with three <strong>of</strong> the four<br />

participants identifying unemployment rates as salient aspects <strong>of</strong> a countries<br />

international pr<strong>of</strong>ile, and ones which require some precise consideration. EP<br />

claims that no country in the world enjoys zero unemployment (lines 1-3),<br />

even in Amerika [America] where at that time EP noted the economy to be<br />

'gerade am boomen' ['booming at the moment] (line 7), as well as in<br />

Grossbrittanian [Great Britain] where EP is currently resident. Following this,<br />

other participants cite other countries' unemployment rates, such as KN's<br />

claims regarding Holland (lines 10-14) and HB's observations about Schweiz<br />

[Switzerland] (line 15 onwards). Collectively then what the participants work<br />

towards is a cumulative corpus <strong>of</strong> factual data organised around a central<br />

theme and upon which further consensual definition and evaluation <strong>of</strong> the<br />

problem <strong>of</strong> Arbeitslosigkeit can develop.<br />

As is common for German sociable conversation, much <strong>of</strong> the talk here<br />

is taken up by one speaker, namely, HB. Importantly, HB's claims, and<br />

therefore HB's self, is not being pr<strong>of</strong>fered nor taken as an individuated one<br />

based for example on some counter-position, but as one representative <strong>of</strong> the<br />

definitions and views <strong>of</strong> the participants qua collective. What HB's claims<br />

further manifest is evidence <strong>of</strong> a German agonised self. In line 38 and<br />

beyond, HB mobilises such an agonised self as he provides the evidence for<br />

the 'einfachen Grunde' ['simple reason'] for Germany's employment problems<br />

being the correlation between its unemployment rate and the millions <strong>of</strong> non-<br />

working 'Auslaenders'['foreingers] in the country (lines 40-41) . As the talk<br />

progresses and HB continues to develop the talk in and through this primarily<br />

agonised self, other participants mobilise similar recognisably agonised<br />

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