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2 Wagen gekauft ha[ben Polen 3 HB: [HM 4 (0.5) 5 HB: Hm= 6 KH: =Und an der Grenze sind Unfälle passiert der wurde zur Kasse gebeten, 7 die Versicherung (. ) = 8 HB: =Hm:: =hm::: 9 10 KH: >Weil der gar nicht angemeldet warnach Polen 15 geht ist natürlich Schlechter-weil du da meistens da kannst du< hhh= 16 KH: =Das sicherste ist [wenn du den Wagen verkaufst wenn du den Wagen 17 HB: [kannst du da bei denen kannst du da nichts machen 18 KH: Abmeldest (1) >und wenn der den kaufen will=dann soll der sich neue 19 Nummernschilder holen=dann ist für dich hundertprozentig [erledigt< (1) 20 HB: [HM 21 sonst kannst du zur Kasse gebeten werden= 22 HB: =E:: R Paß Auf--paß auf=ICH er-Ich halte das für möglich ich=>habe es 23 auch jahrelang gemacht früher--und zwar< hhh (0.5) gab das e:: r- 24 >haben wir extra so ne kleinen< Ka: rten (. ) da stand extra drinne ja ich 25 e:: r (. ) ich habe (0.5) als Besitzer des Wagens soundso den eh das 26 Fahrzeug an (1) e:: r den=und=den verkauft an an das Datum und 27 Uhrzeit und alles war schon vorgedruckt (0.5) alles ausgefüllt 28 Briefmarke drauf und hingeschickt (1) und eh da hatte ich (2) weiß ich 29 nicht ganz vier fünf Stück davon=und wollten wir irgenwann neue holen 30 dann haben die gesagt das ist nicht erforderlich (. ) die brauchten die 31 brauchten das nicht zu wissen. 32 33 KH: 34 HB: DAS KOMMT AUTOMATISCH die Rückmeidung vom anderen 35 Straßenverkehrsamt (0.5) Ich sage ja das ist natürlich so Fälle (. ) da 36 kann es vorkommen ne= 37 KH: =>Steil doch den Krach mal ab man versteht das ja Nicht< (1) wo ist 38 denn Peter ((K leaves for Garden to look for Peter - topic ends with no resolution)) Excerpt 6.15 Translation Vvbere's Peter? ' I KH: It has happened that (0.5) some foreigners bought cars Poles 2 HB: Hm 3 (0.5) 4 HB: Hm= 5 KH: =And at the border accidents happend he was charged the insurance 6 = 7 HB: =Hm:: =hm:: 8 9 KH: >Because he wasn't registered goes to Poland of course 14 Worse=because most of the time you can you< hhh= 15 KH: =The safest is [if you sell the car if you sell the car if you take it off 16 HB: [then you can't then you can't do anything iRn
17 KH: the road (1) >and if he wants to buy it=he'll have to get new registration 18 plates then the matter is a hundred per cent [sorted< out for you otherwise 19 HB: [Hm 20 KH: you can be charged= 21 HB: =E:: R LISTEN=LlSten I er--I think that's possible and 1=>used to do it like 22 this over years that is there were< hhh (0.5) ther we e:: r =>there we had 23 especially little< cards (. ) in which it said I e:: r (. ) I have (0.5) as the owner 24 of the car such and such then eh have sold the vehicle to such=and=such 25 a person date time and everything (0.5) it was all pre-printed I filled 26 everything put a stamp on and sent it off (1) and eh I had (2) I'm not quite 27 sure four of these and at some stage wanted to get new ones and then 28 they said (. ) that's not required they didn't need this 29 (0.5) 30 KH: I 31 [THAT COMES AUTOMATICALLY the feedback from the other 32 road traffic authority (0.5) as I say there are of course such cases (. ) where 33 it can happen you know-- 34 KH: =>Just turn that noise of you can't hear anything< (1) where's Peter gone 35 to ((K leaves for Garden to look for Peter - topic ends with no (+) repair)) Whereas in English this type of negative threshold breach (and hence positive face-threat) seldom occurs (the English archetypal equivalent being somebody'going on too much'- a phenomenon which conversely is rarely perceived in German conversation), the German preference for extended debate and argumentation makes it particularly susceptible to such negative threshold breaches. Further, if and when such points of argumentation do occur in English, as I have already mentioned, participants commonly use humour to re-frame the event as non-serious. In terms of the second element of threshold breaches - repair and remedy - German participants seem less well equipped to deal with this. In the above excerpt, KH simply withdraws to avoid any possible positive face threat (by standing up and walking off into the garden to look for Peter - Cf. Goffman 1967). Whether this repair or not may be debatable, but upon KH's return several minutes later, a more congenial and solidaric atmosphere did resume. What is clear is that German 'Wettkampf can extend for many minutes and prima facie appear unsociable. It therefore has to extend far beyond the limits of what is perceived as 'sociable' argumentation in English sociable episodes before positive threshold breaches occur. iRl
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2 Wagen gekauft ha[ben Polen<br />
3 HB: [HM<br />
4 (0.5)<br />
5 HB: Hm=<br />
6 KH: =Und an der Grenze sind Unfälle passiert der wurde zur Kasse gebeten,<br />
7 die Versicherung (. ) =<br />
8 HB: =Hm:: =hm:::<br />
9<br />
10 KH: >Weil der gar nicht angemeldet warnach Polen<br />
15 geht ist natürlich Schlechter-weil du da meistens da kannst du< hhh=<br />
16 KH: =Das sicherste ist [wenn du den Wagen verkaufst wenn du den Wagen<br />
17 HB: [kannst du da bei denen kannst du da nichts machen<br />
18 KH: Abmeldest (1) >und wenn der den kaufen will=dann soll der sich neue<br />
19 Nummernschilder holen=dann ist für dich hundertprozentig [erledigt< (1)<br />
20 HB: [HM<br />
21 sonst kannst du zur Kasse gebeten werden=<br />
22 HB: =E:: R Paß Auf--paß auf=ICH er-Ich halte das für möglich ich=>habe es<br />
23 auch jahrelang gemacht früher--und zwar< hhh (0.5) gab das e:: r-<br />
24 >haben wir extra so ne kleinen< Ka: rten (. ) da stand extra drinne ja ich<br />
25 e:: r (. ) ich habe (0.5) als Besitzer des Wagens soundso den eh das<br />
26 Fahrzeug an (1) e:: r den=und=den verkauft an an das Datum und<br />
27 Uhrzeit und alles war schon vorgedruckt (0.5) alles ausgefüllt<br />
28 Briefmarke drauf und hingeschickt (1) und eh da hatte ich (2) weiß ich<br />
29 nicht ganz vier fünf Stück davon=und wollten wir irgenwann neue holen<br />
30 dann haben die gesagt das ist nicht erforderlich (. ) die brauchten die<br />
31 brauchten das nicht zu wissen.<br />
32<br />
33 KH:<br />
34 HB: DAS KOMMT AUTOMATISCH die Rückmeidung vom anderen<br />
35 Straßenverkehrsamt (0.5) Ich sage ja das ist natürlich so Fälle (. ) da<br />
36 kann es vorkommen ne=<br />
37 KH: =>Steil doch den Krach mal ab man versteht das ja Nicht< (1) wo ist<br />
38 denn Peter<br />
((K leaves for Garden to look for Peter - topic ends with no resolution))<br />
Excerpt 6.15 Translation Vvbere's Peter? '<br />
I KH: It has happened that (0.5) some foreigners bought cars Poles<br />
2 HB: Hm<br />
3 (0.5)<br />
4 HB: Hm=<br />
5 KH: =And at the border accidents happend he was charged the insurance<br />
6 =<br />
7 HB: =Hm:: =hm::<br />
8<br />
9 KH: >Because he wasn't registered goes to Poland <strong>of</strong> course<br />
14 Worse=because most <strong>of</strong> the time you can you< hhh=<br />
15 KH: =The safest is [if you sell the car if you sell the car if you take it <strong>of</strong>f<br />
16 HB: [then you can't then you can't do anything<br />
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