April 2011 - Centre for Civil Society - University of KwaZulu-Natal
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divert attention from the struggles <strong>of</strong> the working peoples, from students,<br />
from women, from the youth, who are against the capitalist system as it<br />
exists. We are in the midst <strong>of</strong> the most intense capitalist crisis since 1930s.<br />
This struggle internationally is a struggle against capitalism.<br />
AMY GOODMAN: Pr<strong>of</strong>essor Campbell, I want to thank you very much <strong>for</strong><br />
being with us, a pr<strong>of</strong>essor <strong>of</strong> African American [studies] and political<br />
science at Syracuse <strong>University</strong>, African American studies and political<br />
science at Syracuse. He’s written extensively about African politics. As we<br />
move on now from talking about the protests from the Middle East and<br />
North Africa to the Midwest to Iraq, we’ll be going to Iraq in a minute.<br />
www.democracynow.org<br />
No more imposed policies: Challenges <strong>for</strong> Africa<br />
Demba Moussa Dembele First Published in Pambazuka 2 March <strong>2011</strong><br />
In an interview with Rosa Moussauoi and Chantal Delmas, Demba Moussa<br />
Dembele discusses Western-imposed policies <strong>for</strong> Africa, the faces <strong>of</strong><br />
contemporary imperialism, the notion <strong>of</strong> China’s ‘yellow peril’ and<br />
reinvigorating the struggle against neoliberalism.<br />
ROSA MOUSSAUOI AND CHANTAL DELMAS: We are in a period in which the<br />
world crisis is still unresolved. It has had very concrete social<br />
repercussions, particularly in Africa. What is the context in which the<br />
World Social Forum took place in Dakar?<br />
DEMBA MOUSSA DEMBELE: The Dakar World Social Forum took place in the<br />
context <strong>of</strong> a worsening <strong>of</strong> the crisis, not only in Senegal but also in the<br />
bulk <strong>of</strong> African countries. For over 30 years we have been experiencing<br />
various aspects <strong>of</strong> this crisis, which was imposed on us both by the<br />
international context and by the negligence and abdication <strong>of</strong> some<br />
African leaders.<br />
The hunger riots recently in Mozambique remind us that the problem <strong>of</strong><br />
food supply remains acute in Africa. In Europe you are <strong>of</strong>ten faced with<br />
the problem <strong>of</strong> immigration, allegedly clandestine and illegal. This is due<br />
to the developmental crisis Africa is experiencing: mass unemployment <strong>of</strong><br />
young people and the crisis <strong>of</strong> education. These problems are linked to the<br />
programmes imposed on us, which have caused budgetary austerity, the<br />
dismantling <strong>of</strong> state and para-state enterprises and which have prevented<br />
economic growth and employment. As a result, poverty has increased.<br />
More than half <strong>of</strong> African countries – or rather more than half <strong>of</strong> the<br />
African population – live on less than one dollar a day. This is less felt by<br />
us because there are ‘safety nets’ built into the way African societies are<br />
organised. However, the fact remains that the world is now recognising<br />
that the programmes that have been imposed on Africa have aggravated<br />
not only the unemployment problem but, especially, the problem <strong>of</strong><br />
poverty – not only in rural areas but also in urban centres. In Dakar itself,<br />
let alone its outskirts, there are families who can only af<strong>for</strong>d one meal a<br />
day.<br />
ROSA MOUSSAUOI AND CHANTAL DELMAS: There<strong>for</strong>e this <strong>for</strong>um was to take<br />
place in an extremely difficult economic and social environment. What<br />
about the political implications?<br />
DEMBA MOUSSA DEMBELE: Since people no longer accept being pushed