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sorry to say it that instead of getting it diluted, caste politics is increasing by leaps and bounds, and some way it is also linked to the communal politics. The mindset which is operating in proliferation of the caste politics, same mindset somewhere is contributing to communal tension, that the same kind of people want to remain in the seat of power, whether using the caste or whether using community, religion, whatsoever it may be. So, at the end I will request that the caste politics, divisive politics, must be dealt with. I am sorry to say it. The nation in which we are and there are other nations which started their development, their democracy much after us, for instance China, they have gone much ahead of us but where are we? Of course our growth rate is higher but I don’t think that it is percolating down to grossroot level. May be growth rate is about 9 %. But still India lives in many centuries behind, in some part of India there are the people who are living thousand years behind. The fruits of techonology, industrial growth, market economy, globalization have not, are not reaching the people. So, we have to also take into account and I think the caste politics is also responsible for this. So, those who in the name of Dr. Ambedkar are doing caste politics should be rebuffed, that politics should be rebuffed and of course, right thinking people should come together and should promote each other. Unfortunately Indian media is not playing the role which it should have. That is very unfortunate. If the media is not doing it then of course there are other sections and the sections who can set the direction of the country are here, so they can set it. We have been in the habit of thinking very traditionally and of course that is not going to solve our problems, for this has to be taken into very seriously and with this, I thank you all, thank you. Shri Navid Hamid : That after three and half years this National Integration Council is meeting and I sincerely think that as there are around 150 members and there are seven important issues which have to be discussed and deliberated upon. I sincerely request that this meeting should be extended to two days and there should be no impression this is like a meeting of National Development Council. The Chief Ministers should be given the chance to speak at the end of discussion because there are number of activists here who are working at the ground level and who have more information about the communal and the violent situation across the country and my sincere request is that they should be allowed at the initial stage. Home Minister : Well I would like to thank Mr. Udit Raj for his statement. Now the suggestion which you have given cannot immediately be accepted because the Hon’ble Chief Ministers and other members have their programmes organised for tomorrow also. So without consulting them, it would not be possible. But I would request all the Hon’ble members to make their statements as briefly as possible. If they complete their statements in seven minutes time, it would be very useful and we would like to give the opportunity to all the members who want to speak and if necessary we can 8
sit late also but taking this discussion to tomorrow probably will cause many problems for many of the members. So now there are no other members who were members of the committee who had given the topics, so I leave the floor open to other Hon’ble members One of the NIC Member - I wish to speak Sir. Home Minister : Please give me a small slip, so that I will call out your name and then ...........yes. May I request the other member who was standing up over there to make the statement, you can speak later on. Yes. Shri Sitaram Yechuri : Since you said that as you rightly pointed out that the Hon’ble Chief Ministers are here and leaders of the recognised All India Parties are here, I will suggest you to please adopt a procedure as to who to call, I mean do not leave it to the floor of the house for hands to be raised for everyone here who would like to speak sir. So a procedure has to be drawn up by the chair, I mean we appreciate your sincerity to democratic principles and practices but don’t let that to lead to anarchy. So what I suggest is, you decide who you should call first and please we will all abide by that. Home Minister : We will do that but I will get the names of the persons who would like to participate so that I can call out their names from the podium over here. Now one or two speakers ........ (intervention) ...... just send a chit ......... (intervention)......... well, definitely they will be allowed to speak but then there are others you know you are saying that they do not get the opportunity and they will like to speak we would like to accommodate as many as possible. You just send your names and we will call out the names and supposing I call out the name of a person or a leader who is not willing to speak then it becomes difficult, so let one or two speakers and then we will get into that ......yah....yes. Home Minister : Thank you. I now request Dr. John Dayal to make his statement please. Dr. John Dayal Good Morning, you gave us seven Minutes, I will take three. My name is John Dayal, I speak on behalf of Archbishop Vincent M. Concessao and Dr. Valson Thampu and two other Christian members of the National Integratcion Council. But they are not here as Christian members, we are here as citizens of India. Mr. Home Minister, Sir, you cautioned us quite correctly to speak in a manner that words do not hurt anybody. Mine will not, because I seek permission to weep and if my tears hurt anybody, I apolozise in advance, sir. Even 9
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