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København<br />

3. marts <strong>2011</strong><br />

<strong>Referat</strong> <strong>af</strong> <strong>Erfamøde</strong> <strong>for</strong> <strong>DDA</strong>-<strong>partner</strong>, <strong>d.28.</strong> <strong>februar</strong> <strong>2011</strong><br />

<strong>Tilstede</strong>:<br />

Egon Triel – Coloplast<br />

Jesper Jul Mørch – DSB<br />

Søren Moesgaard – DSB<br />

Ellen Engebretsen – TDC<br />

Rune Domsten – Prevas<br />

Nicola Girotti – Cisco<br />

Friederike Faller – Knud Holscher Design<br />

Susanne Gylstorff – Danisco<br />

Gitte Just – <strong>DDA</strong><br />

Laura Jantzen – <strong>DDA</strong><br />

Kasper Møller Larsen – <strong>DDA</strong><br />

Oplæg: Is good design good business<br />

Tore Kristensen, professor CBS<br />

Bjørn Gjedde Kristensen, student CBS<br />

Gorm Gabrielsen, lektor CBS<br />

Spørgsmål/kommentarer til oplæg:<br />

Nicola: Pris er ikke nødvendigvis markør <strong>for</strong> ”good business”. Kan blive <strong>for</strong> høj og det<br />

modsatte scenarie kan opstå.<br />

Tore: Hvert studie <strong>af</strong> brands er en kontinuerlig proces, hvor viden udarbejdes hele tiden. Er<br />

meget interesseret i at få samarbejds<strong>partner</strong>e (<strong>DDA</strong> <strong>partner</strong>e) at arbejde med.<br />

Questions/comments:<br />

Nicola: Price is not nescessarily a marker of ”good business”. It can be too high and the<br />

opposite scenario can occur.<br />

Tore: Every study of a brand is an ongoing proces where knowledge is developed all the<br />

time. Is very interested in getting collaborators from <strong>DDA</strong> to work with.<br />

Diskussionsspørgsmål:<br />

Egon: Vi sætter ikke selv vores priser. De er statsreguleret. Hvordan kan vi arbejde med<br />

vores produkter/designs når vi ikke kan bestemme pris Vi er meget interesseret i at få<br />

berettiget brugen <strong>af</strong> design i Coloplast. Medical marketing med andre ord.<br />

Jesper: Hvor meget er designet værd i hele servicepakken (DSB) Kan man beregne værdien<br />

<strong>af</strong> det enkelte logo Brand


Side 2<br />

Søren: Hvis du har et godt produkt, er der så en høj værdi tilknyttet logoet Har du så også<br />

et godt firma DSB har ikke et fysisk produkt, der<strong>for</strong> står vi over<strong>for</strong> en stor ud<strong>for</strong>dring i<br />

<strong>for</strong>hold til service og servicedesign. Sammenhæng mellem logo, brand og produkt er vores<br />

store fokus.<br />

Ellen: Ift. visuel identitet, er vores identitet ikke <strong>af</strong>stemt med vores prisniveau. Vi fremstår<br />

dyre og det er et problem pga. dårlig presseomtale. Det kunne være interessant at lave en<br />

analyse <strong>af</strong> det. Måske designet ser <strong>for</strong> ”pænt” ud Forbrugeren tænker måske at prisen på<br />

TDCs produkter kunne nedbringes hvis designet/visuel identitet nedtones.<br />

Rune: Det er dyrere og mere kompliceret at skabe godt design, pga. at, et fysisk produkt ikke<br />

er nemt at konvertere til andre user-interfaces fx som Iphone.<br />

Michael: Balancen mellem brandede og ikke-brandede produkter. Hvornår skader det ene<br />

andet Og omvendt.<br />

Nicola: (Hentyder til Flip-camera). Det er nemt at sælge i USA men svært i Europa. Hvad<br />

skal man fokusere på at sælge i de respektive lande Brugeroplevelse, design etc.<br />

Storytelling kan være et potentielt redskab. Eller at simplificere produktet. Det nytter ikke<br />

at tænke i konventionel marketing, <strong>for</strong>di den er top-down. Bottom-up initiativer kan være<br />

en mulighed <strong>for</strong> at skabe et attraktivt community <strong>for</strong> brugerne.<br />

Questions <strong>for</strong> discussion:<br />

Egon: We do not set our prices ourselves. They are regulated by the government. How can<br />

we work with our products and design, when we cannot control the price We’re very<br />

interested in getting design justified in Coloplast. Medical marketing in other terms.<br />

Jesper: How much is the design worth in the whole service package (DSB) Can you<br />

calculate the value of the individual logo Brand<br />

Søren: If you have a good product, how big is the value of the logo Does that mean that you<br />

also have a good firm DSB doesn’t have a physical product, there<strong>for</strong>e we face a big<br />

challenge in relation to service and servicedesign. The link between logo, brand and product<br />

really has our attention.<br />

Ellen: In relation to visual identity, our identity is not attuned to our prices. We appear<br />

more expensive and that’s a problem due to bad press coverage. It could be interesting to do<br />

an analysis of that. Maybe the design looks to ”good”. The consumer might think that the<br />

price could be reduced on TDC’s products if the design/visual identity was reduced.<br />

Rune: Its much more expensive and comlicated to create a good design because a physical<br />

product, not easily is converted into other user-interfaces such as a iphone.<br />

Michael: The balance between branded and non-branded products. In which situation does<br />

one thing harm the other And the other way around.<br />

Nicola: (Refering to a flip-camera). It’s easy to sell in the USA but difficult in Europe. Where<br />

should your focus be in the different countries User-experience, design etc. Strytelling<br />

could be a potential tool. Or to simplify the product. It doesn’t work to think in traditional<br />

marketing terms, because it’s top-down. Bottom-up initiatives can be a possibility to create<br />

an attractive community around the users.<br />

De fremtidige perspektiver <strong>for</strong> ”Design i større virksomheder”<br />

Tore Kristensen er meget interesseret i at lave arbejde og analyser med de enkelte<br />

virksomheder. Kontakten går igennem <strong>DDA</strong> og efterfølgende <strong>af</strong>holdes evt. et opfølgende<br />

møde hvor resultaterne fremlægges.


Side 3<br />

The future aspects <strong>for</strong> ”Design in larger companies”<br />

Tore Kristensen is very interested in doing collaborations and analysis with the individual<br />

companies. The contact will go through <strong>DDA</strong> and in the future there’s gonna be held a<br />

follow-up meeting where the results are presented.

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